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Message: [QUOTE="IthacaMatt, post: 4787124, member: 405"] We have been a very good to elite program twice in the modern era, from the mid-50s to the mid-60s, and then again from the mid 80s to the Millenium, a couple stretches exceeding a decade each time. Yes, television has changed the economics of football enormously, but I just posted a link full of teams like Minnesota, Cincinnati, Louisville, Maryland, Purdue, Utah, Ole Miss, Arizona State, Kansas State and another handful of teams that should be roughly peers. And in the last 10 years, those teams have badly over-achieved us, and the decade before that, was the low point in our 120 year football history. Just like basketball has been a 70% winning team for 100 years. Football is not so far off of those numbers, historically speaking. Why should we aspire to any less success than West Virginia, Pitt, BC, Maryland, Pitt, Rutgers, Va Tech, NC State, Georgia Tech or any non-Top 20 programs? [/QUOTE]