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Message: [QUOTE="IthacaMatt, post: 4790555, member: 405"] How about "teams we actually feel rivalries with?" That's what the ACC ruined. Imagine if the ACC division we signed up for was all the old Big East teams - Miami, BC, Pitt, SU, Va. Tech - and then add whoever you want, like Florida State unless you want to give them and Miami separate 'clear paths' to the Championship Game (which is what people were thinking 20 years ago ...). Clemson was not such a big deal back then. And then let ND play against the "Old Big East Division", and throw in UVa and Ga Tech or Wake. That would have been great. [/QUOTE]