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[QUOTE="Alsacs, post: 673414, member: 652"]
I think Stanford should be in the Knights, but 1 more top 10 year and they will become a Baron.
I don't have a problem making tiers within tiers but those Knights are all good historical teams with decent performance or teams that have risen over the last fifteen years from being peasants. I wouldn't put Louisville or Pittsburgh in a tier higher than Syracuse. We have struggled because of the GROB era, but Pitt hasn't been anything more than a consistent 6-6, 7-5 team. Louisville had a good run under Petrino, but Kragthrope bombed that advancement and while Charlie Strong and Teddy Bridgewater have had a good two year run they haven't moved UL above Oklahoma State or numerous teams in that bunch. I realize you probably didn't spend more than a minute putting those groupings together.
 
Also, UCLA is a baron they are a top 15 power. They have struggled under two previous coaches before Mora, but the Rose Bowl attendance has been 67k while that may be less than 100k its impressive and UCLA has a ton of history aren't nobodys. They are a 2nd tier elite program with the ability to be a King.
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