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Message: [QUOTE="RF2044, post: 2001795, member: 40"] What both of these guards seem to lack is doing purposeful things with the ball when they make moves off of the bounce. Gillon was better today than he's been--had a couple of nice passes off the bounce--but when you make up your mind to take it to the tin, forget about trying to avoid getting it blocked, draw contact and get to the line. Drives me nuts about him. But I agree with your point about him playing downhill. He seems to be slowly figuring things out, whereas Howard seems to be going in the opposite direction. But skurey's point above is correct--neither is playing to their potential, and we need more from both for this team to right the ship. [/QUOTE]