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Message: [QUOTE="wfschrec, post: 5511235, member: 361"] With FSU being bad sans 2023 and Miami not being Miami like until last year winning the ACC is nothing more than being the tallest midget in the room. Making the playoffs now vs when it was 4 teams is different because you have the automatic bid so it isn't the same as making the 4 team. Quite frankly until the aggregate strength of the conference improves its a paper tiger effect (literally). 2020 was the last year they made the 4 team playoff (COVID year) and 2021 was the DJ U experiment and we all know how that went. Venables is at Oklahoma starting 2022. Is it any coincidence they didn't make the 4 year playoff since 2020 and wouldn't have even been in the 12 team playoff if we don't upset Miami? [/QUOTE]