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Message: [QUOTE="Millhouse, post: 827714, member: 78"] [IMG]http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/5719/nxj6.jpg[/IMG] vertical is qb rating starting with clemson horizontal is the game number by his final game his senior year, he should be somewhere around a 500 passer rating. i kid. the reason the chart is so steep is because no one has ever been that bad to start out. but still, he finished up decent can't blame the coaches for thinking he wasn't ready to start out. but once allen failed, they ended up getting the benefit of his development and a bowl game* [SIZE=1]*if we get one[/SIZE] [/QUOTE]