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Message: [QUOTE="pearl31, post: 1665612, member: 1531"] OK but in the process you've also made two claims that don't really hold water... 1) that people are talking up SU's conference record - if anything folks seem to be saying we're lacking in that regard and need to lift it to a minimal 9-9 just to have a chance... and 2) that people are saying BC/Wake/etc wins are impressive - and I haven't seen that at all... hey I've watched OSU as well in recent weeks - was mildly impressed with their play at home vs Mich, but that was just as much Mich playing poorly for much of the game - and I was also impressed with them back in December vs Kentucky... bottom line, they're not a tourney team barring some miraculous turnaround in the final two weeks [/QUOTE]