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Message: [QUOTE="orangefan13, post: 199548, member: 906"] Any layup that doesn't land in the cylinder inside rim is forced. Heck even some that do are. Those layups didn't look like they were in the cylinder. Just a off game for triche it happens. Fact is Dion did force some things off the dribble as well but his 3-6 shooting and 1 turnover and 2 assists were better then 0-6. I liked how triche got a hand out in the perimeter late in the game and got that big rebound late in the game though. I liked how Dion only took 6 shots today instead of 12. I liked how dion was breathing hard on defense. :) [/QUOTE]