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Message: [QUOTE="Townie72, post: 436918, member: 780"] Yes, yes , yes ... what you said is correct. But the idea of SU being the "antithesis" or "opposite" of ND because it was founded by another religious denomination stretches the definition of antithesis beyond anything I've ever heard. The two schools are hardly "opposites" and that's what "antithesis" means. Both are private universities founded by religious institutions that are both members of the same athletic conference for all sports but football. They are similar in size. Do these two schools seem opposite to you? A better case for an antithesis for ND or SU might be Army or Navy (i.e. US Government schools designed exclusively to train military officers)... but even then there are so many similarities. [/QUOTE]