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Message: [QUOTE="IthacaMatt, post: 1647219, member: 405"] How do you know there are no "impact players"??? And what's with the "weak attempt to build staff"? He got pretty much his whole crew from Bowling Green. Who did he target as a coach that he failed to get? Yes, Marrone pulled a few impact players in his first couple years, but then tired of recruiting and the results reflected that. Shafer was personable, but most of his 4 star guys never made it to campus. I'll give him credit for some good young talent that we saw last year, but I don't get the reason for your slam of Dino's efforts. Babers got a class in the top half of college football in a year that saw a change in head coach and a turnover of 80% of the recruiting class. The quality of the offers the kids we landed got is much better than the offers the Shafer kids had, by and large. I think Dino is doing great. [/QUOTE]