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Message: [QUOTE="tipphill, post: 1200050, member: 4809"] agree with all the above, ft drum should be used for the mental part of the game and basic conditioning and having fun. this is not a team that is no huddle. they need basics and will need it for some time(learn to crawl before you walk). practice really needs to be evaluated in terms of contact. we need basic football 101, shafer needs his defense philosophy to mirror the rest of the team. he needs to mature . marrone started to get back to basics and was beginning to get successful ---shafer needs to do that. stop being a players coach and be the leader.. [/QUOTE]