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Message: [QUOTE="Millhouse, post: 351552, member: 78"] you say that USC might get lots their yards in isolated plays and might not be that great at converting first downs i respond by saying USC was 11th in the country in first downs last year with most of their offense returning. then you respond by saying you don't care how many they got last year or this year. OK... that sounds really smart to me! some things are quantifiable. like USC's ability to get first downs. my position is that teams with lots of first downs are good at getting first downs. but you say stats shmats. [/QUOTE]