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Message: [QUOTE="orangecuse, post: 1651639, member: 668"] I'm an all Cleveland pro sports fan...and visit Cleveland.com daily as well as other things Cleveland. I recall the team (generally not the fans) being excited about Waiters and the [I]potential[/I] backcourt prowess with Irving at the helm. However, I don't believe the Cavs or its fans ever felt that Waiter's was a [I]'franchise[/I]/[I]cornerstone'[/I] face of the program type guy, but rather a solid compliment to Irving. Now Waiter's may have viewed himself differently, but not the Cavs. There was talk as early as Waiter's rookie year of possibly being traded (the whole skipping the national anthem thing, etc.) not something typically done with a 'franchise' type guy. [/QUOTE]