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Message: [QUOTE="OrangePA, post: 58143, member: 204"] I really think you underestimate the impact of facilities, and success. And I think you fail to understand that a program like SU needs years to nurture young athletes and HS coaches. It's easy to recruit to LSU or USC. Ed Orgeron has spoken of how he learned to recruit from DeLeone at SU. That you expect four and five star recruits immediately and consistently is very unrealistic with a program like the SU program. And unless you have been on a recruiting visit and have seen and heard how he approaches young athletes I can't imagine how you can guage his ability. I can assure you, Marrone was a better recruiter at GA and Tenn than he is now and there's a reason for that. I for one can see how much he has improved our talent base - I don't see where you are coming from on this issue. [/QUOTE]