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Message: [QUOTE="wfschrec, post: 1169803, member: 361"] LOL compare the notable alumni list at each school: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clemson_University#Notable_alumni[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Syracuse_University_people#Notable_alumni[/url] Without football CU has about 20-30 ... SU has pulitzer prize winners and the cofounder of Intel for crying out loud. Not sure about those garbage payscale numbers but my salary has never been surveyed and I know I would provide a boost to those metrics. Its amazing that you guys still can't figure out one simple fact ... we have a smaller enrollment and we are a private institution yet we compete on a very high level with athletics an academics and have an alumni list looks like a DMV waiting line compared to your "storied" alums which is about as long as the line I just stood in at a Publix deli. But thanks for playing, come again soon. [/QUOTE]