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Message: [QUOTE="Aweart23, post: 116280, member: 6"] Bees Maybe you should look back a little further than just the last guy...Smith and Petrino were 81-30 over 9 years and 9 straight bowl games. 1998- 2006... What was our record during that time frame? What was the support of the SU Administration and the AD during that time frame for our football program? Do we have a deep pocket like Papa John's that I don't know about? To boil it down to Doug started more Grob Guys than Strong started Kragthorpe guys is a silly measuring stick. That does not even come close to reflecting the state of each program...one program, Louisville had 9 years on the way up, hit a speed bump in Kragthorpe, The other program, Syracuse, on the way down, was driven into the ground by Grob, et al... [/QUOTE]