I spoke to Rob Moore...

[iommi]

Rob Moore sat right behind me at the St John's game yesterday. I spoke to him briefly at halftime. Nice guy. I said hi and we exchanged hellos.

I asked him how his receiving group is looking for next year. He said Marcus Sales is officially back and he, along with Alec Lemon, will give them a nice veteran combo. He also said that he expects big things from Kobena but that he has some kind of leg injury (didn't sound serious). He told someone else that the new guys aren't burners but they catch the ball and will make plays.

 

[rrlbees]

Kobena but that he has some kind of leg injury (didn't sound serious).

Didn't he mean to say lower body injury?

 

[kcsu]

Didn't he mean to say lower body injury?

Quick MR Bees very quick

 

[orangenauburn]

did he have a bodyguard? Just in case Bel Biv or Devoe were around

 

[RF2044]

Rob Moore sat right behind me at the St John's game yesterday. I spoke to him briefly at halftime. Nice guy. I said hi and we exchanged hellos.

I asked him how his receiving group is looking for next year. He said Marcus Sales is officially back and he, along with Alec Lemon, will give them a nice veteran combo. He also said that he expects big things from Kobena but that he has some kind of leg injury (didn't sound serious). He told someone else that the new guys aren't burners but they catch the ball and will make plays.

Great news--we need all the playmakers we can get, and it would be nice to feature a group of WRs who can all make something happen with the ball.

 

[orangephan]

Rob Moore sat right behind me at the St John's game yesterday. I spoke to him briefly at halftime. Nice guy. I said hi and we exchanged hellos.

I asked him how his receiving group is looking for next year. He said Marcus Sales is officially back and he, along with Alec Lemon, will give them a nice veteran combo. He also said that he expects big things from Kobena but that he has some kind of leg injury (didn't sound serious). He told someone else that the new guys aren't burners but they catch the ball and will make plays.

That's the problem, no deep-threat speed. Of course, Nassib's got to throw it deep...with accuracy. I think if Ryan (and the Staff) had confidence in a deep-threat WR, he could be more successful long, ala Sales in the Pinstripe. Hope and pray for Mr. Sales to put it all together next season. He's probably our only long ball threat.

 

[cusestudent]

That's the problem, no deep-threat speed. Of course, Nassib's got to throw it deep...with accuracy. I think if Ryan (and the Staff) had confidence in a deep-threat WR, he could be more successful long, ala Sales in the Pinstripe. Hope and pray for Mr. Sales to put it all together next season. He's probably our only long ball threat.

Sales' big plays in the Pinstripe Bowl weren't deep passes...they were mainly slants over the middle and he split the safeties to go straight up the middle. We don't need to throw the deep ball that much to be successful, just stick to what works (outs, slants, curls, etc).

 

[Upstate]

I think the NHL is going to Upper/Lower body injuries as the league minimum of the injury report. Goodell was asked about the NFL's policy and said they are keeping it the same. Thought that was interesting.

 

[rocklloyd]

did he have a bodyguard? Just in case Bel Biv or Devoe were around

I just spit my drink out at iPad. Hilarious.

 

[Rocco]

That's the problem, no deep-threat speed. Of course, Nassib's got to throw it deep...with accuracy. I think if Ryan (and the Staff) had confidence in a deep-threat WR, he could be more successful long, ala Sales in the Pinstripe. Hope and pray for Mr. Sales to put it all together next season. He's probably our only long ball threat.

Sales is a pretty good deep option. DMF might get some looks there too.

 

[Dmcnabbrules]

You don't have to be a speed guy to catch balls down the field. West is a big kid how about throwing a jump ball to him. Provo and Stevens had two of the longer catches this season on wheel routes. The offense seemed to really get bunched up during the losing streak. Without going full on spread staff needs to create better spacing. Sales and Lemon are fast enough to hit a gap and take it to the house.

 

[Whitey23]

did he have a bodyguard? Just in case Bel Biv or Devoe were around

Alright I gotta know the BBD story. I've seen it enough the past few weeks.

 

[ConnectiCuse]

Alright I gotta know the BBD story. I've seen it enough the past few weeks.

From a NYJ board:

I remember a rumor back in the early 90's that said the music group Bel Biv DeVoe used the line "Rob Moore you're dead" in its song Poison. According to the rumor, Rob Moore went out with a girl who was dating a member of the group. The line is supposed to be "One move you're dead", but the rumor says different.

 

[Whitey23]

From a NYJ board:

I remember a rumor back in the early 90's that said the music group Bel Biv DeVoe used the line "Rob Moore you're dead" in its song Poison. According to the rumor, Rob Moore went out with a girl who was dating a member of the group. The line is supposed to be "One move you're dead", but the rumor says different.

That's great. Thanks.

 

[GoCuse44]

Rob Moore sat right behind me at the St John's game yesterday. I spoke to him briefly at halftime. Nice guy. I said hi and we exchanged hellos.

I asked him how his receiving group is looking for next year. He said Marcus Sales is officially back and he, along with Alec Lemon, will give them a nice veteran combo. He also said that he expects big things from Kobena but that he has some kind of leg injury (didn't sound serious). He told someone else that the new guys aren't burners but they catch the ball and will make plays.

Coach Marrone said at a luncheon that Kobena was playing with a lower body injury most of the season and would be a go to guy at WR when healthy this year. He also claimed that one of the guys in the class was faster than Kobena.

 

[orangephan]

Sales' big plays in the Pinstripe Bowl weren't deep passes...they were mainly slants over the middle and he split the safeties to go straight up the middle. We don't need to throw the deep ball that much to be successful, just stick to what works (outs, slants, curls, etc).

You're right, we don't need to throw the deep ball that much, just enough to keep our opponents honest. But I respectfully disagree on the above passing game philosophy, because it's not been working efficiently. Even in a short-to-mid passing game plan, every successful program has a deep threat option. If not, the pass game becomes predictable, thus properly defended, time and again. How many times did that happen to us last year? If you don't have to defend it, you concentrate elsewhere. That's why we experienced so many sacks, throw-aways and lack of 1st downs with our passing game. We were predictable and defendable. Sorry, but our pass game, along with pass protection, was and is, quite lacking. And yes, Sales split the safeties on slants and left them in the dust. Not every pass play has to be a straight line, down field pass route to to be a big play.

 

[kcsu]

Doug wants to establish the run to set up the pass Last year this failed horribly. This year who knows. With a healthy PTG, Smith, AAM and Morris it might just work. I for one believe that Nassib is a streak passer who needs to get off to a good start and build confidence. Way too many times last year Hack put him in terrible third and long situations that killed us and killed his confidence. I would really like to see about a 50% pass on first down strategy this year. We shall see.

 

[jtorange]

Coach Marrone said at a luncheon that Kobena was playing with a lower body injury most of the season and would be a go to guy at WR when healthy this year. He also claimed that one of the guys in the class was faster than Kobena.

And that player's name is ........(?)

 

[GoCuse44]

And that player's name is ........(?)

Since it was during recruiting Coach Marrone could not mention anyone by name so I don't have a clue who it was. The coach is very high Keenan Hale and Kyle Foster.

 

[rocklloyd]

Alright I gotta know the BBD story. I've seen it enough the past few weeks.

It was a huge rumor for those of us in college when the song was popular.

 

[rrlbees]

Coach Marrone said at a luncheon that Kobena was playing with a lower body injury most of the season and would be a go to guy at WR when healthy this year.

Why was he returning KO's then? :noidea:

 

[Shrmdougluvr]

You're right, we don't need to throw the deep ball that much, just enough to keep our opponents honest. But I respectfully disagree on the above passing game philosophy, because it's not been working efficiently. Even in a short-to-mid passing game plan, every successful program has a deep threat option. If not, the pass game becomes predictable, thus properly defended, time and again. How many times did that happen to us last year? If you don't have to defend it, you concentrate elsewhere. That's why we experienced so many sacks, throw-aways and lack of 1st downs with our passing game. We were predictable and defendable. Sorry, but our pass game, along with pass protection, was and is, quite lacking. And yes, Sales split the safeties on slants and left them in the dust. Not every pass play has to be a straight line, down field pass route to to be a big play.

With respect to the deep ball, i think its more on Nassib and Dougie's NFL mentality then anything else. All of Nassib's misses were overthrows on those balls (i.e., either my guy gets it, or nobody gets it). If i recall, very few of the times Syracuse "got beat deep," actually came when the receiver outran one of our DBs. The only one i can recall was Reddish getting beat at USC. Usually, SU gave up long ones failing to identify underthrown deep balls or in blown coverage.

Sometimes you have to let the receiver come back on the ball and make a play.

 

[OrangeCrush22]

And that player's name is ........(?)

Wayne Morgan?

 

[upperdeck]

it could explain kobena being a straight ahead no cut returner.

 

[orangephan]

One thing that bothers me about Kobena is he's still learning to be a WR. He doesn't possess good hands, at least not at this point in his career, and he's still learning how to run routes. Great speed, but he's a work in progress. Kobena has near 4.3 speed; I have no idea who would be faster now Graham's moved on. I do know we have a bunch of possession receivers with 4.5 - 4.6 type speed.