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Message: [QUOTE="chakka3421, post: 18055, member: 1091"] My only perspective is it forces NDs hand - meaning it has to show one of it's aces. The ace is join now or forever be excluded from the ACC because the ACC will be going to 16 teams. Yes Jake I agree with your assessment as it makes a lot of sense now but in addition SU and Pitt add great value to the ACC in their own right as well. Reminds me a little of who is in and who is out when they pick the bball teams in the weeks leading up to the NCAA tourney. [/QUOTE]