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Message: [QUOTE="pfister1, post: 45779, member: 285"] I think Rautins is actually a terrific example. He made huge strides from his junior to senior year and they can't all be measured in the statistics. And as for the statistics he was splitting time at shooting guard and small forward as a junior and played almost exclusively as a guard as a senior with a fair amount of that time spent running the offense. You would expect him to have a higher turn over rate under those circumstances. If he didn't I would think it would be quite extraordinary. I don't think the fact that Andy made a jump means that Scoop will too, but I think watching what Andy did from Junior to Senior year should at least make the case that Scoop can be better this season...how much better? We'll have to see, but by all accounts he has has worked very hard over the off season to be better. It's not like he took the summer off as some of our guys in the past have seemed to have done. [/QUOTE]