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Message: [QUOTE="OrangePA, post: 1155437, member: 204"] I don't want to return to 2005-08. What we have seen so far this year brings back bad memories. I think it's true that we are light years away from where we were during the Robinson years because we have a stable conference situation, we have improved our football infrastructure and we are receiving far more football revenue than we were. And, we have a lot more talent top to bottom than we had in 2006 through 2008. Having said all of that, I question whether we are a six win team this year. I wonder who we beat at this point? BC? NC State? Pitt? Five wins looks to be the best case scenario at this point - and that will take some effort. And I am dumbfounded by what has occurred. I never expected to see what we saw from the very first series against Villanova. What we have seen from 2012 to 2014 confirms the fine margin for error that exists in major college football. [/QUOTE]