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Message: [QUOTE="RF2044, post: 1155727, member: 40"] What's mind boggling to me is how cavalierly you make that claim. I don't think we're going to back slide into GRob-ian dysfunction. We're now in the ACC, we've got the IPF coming, and conference revenues are much better than they were before. On all of those dimensions, we are in a much more advantageous place than we were. In terms of how "bad" they are, it really depends on what you believe about Shafer. I don't agree with you that Shafer "is doing it again." He looked very solid in year one, and had the majority of proven talent returning in year 2, and we're under performing. Yes, recruiting has been better in the last two classes, but that progress might come to a screeching halt if we start losing again [and who knows what type of impact losing GMcD might have, given that he is the ace recruiter on the staff]. Shafer is a big queston mark--I'm not sure why anyone would think otherwise. If you're inclined to believe that Shafer is the guy, then I guess I can see why you'd be optimisitc. But my confidence in him is lower now than at any point since he was originally hired. And I'm not sure that the University is fully committed to making the investment spend required to compete in big time college football. The foundation is already in place--it's time to build upon that and start winning, not tread water or back slide out of bowl eligibility. So while we probably aren't going to regress back into the primordial ooze [which I never claimed--the concerns I'm expressing are not about program stability, but on field performance], I am greatly concerned about this staff's ability to win consistently. I also think you're making a lot of assumptions about Shafer's capabilities of getting us to the next level. I'd like to believe that's the case, but what I'm seeing on the field is an unprepared team and an unprepared group on he sidelines. [/QUOTE]

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