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Message: [QUOTE="Stern, post: 64564, member: 527"] and lets also be honest, the bar is set low for Doug and SU football. It was set low when he took over and its set low going forward especially in the ACC. The expectations in Syracuse are set pretty low. Nobody expects national titles or Top 10 year in year out. So the red flags I am seeing really have me a bit nervous going forward. Because the bar is set so low and Doug is having a tough time meeting it in year 3. I have no problem if the team plays hard and loses to better talent or even a better coach. It happens. But what we have seen the past 2 weeks of just pitiful performances. What we saw vs Toledo, Tulane, and for 3 quarters vs Wake, Rutgers...its been a rough year for Doug and the staff. Real rough. [/QUOTE]