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Message: [QUOTE="Shrmdougluvr, post: 2404096, member: 396"] I want to like this post, but a few things keep me from doing so. First, Shafer's had this program heading backwards. Recruiting was lacking. The coaching was lacking. I think Lester was ok and was doing what he could with what he had, but the offensive philosophy was strange. Etc. I dont know how anyone cant find the energy, macro thinking, attitude, etc., of Babers a refreshing upgrade. Having said that, there are way too many people her that are conflating the results so far. Also, i dont think the team quite on Babers. Both Shafer and Marrone had there fair share of stinkers. If you don't think those teams quit on Marrone, how do you just assume they quit on Babers. Babers' problem is he has no Plan B or curveball. That limits the team's ability to be competitive when playing under less than ideal conditions. I think Marrone is the best x's and o's coach this program has had in my lifetime. What he did that last year was truly impressive. Best offense i have ever seen here. But from what i have heard, he was a cantankerous a-hole who didnt like the recruiting grind. That was always going to set a ceiling for him. Babers on the other hand, is recruiting much better, and is installing a system and approach that has proven to make a lesser talented team a perennial winner in a big way. His ceiling is higher. But he is not the game coach or planner Marrone was. Marrone really needed some Babers in him, and Babers really needs a little of that Marrone cynicism. I still have hope for Babers. If after year 4 we arent getting better results, I'd have no problem moving on from him. I wouldnt extend him this year. I would remove barriers to his being successful. I'd pay his assistants more. I'd hire more recruiting and quality control staff. I'd get a nutritional program in place. After this season (2018) if he makes a bowl, he earns another three years, a pay increase, and the school gets a fatter buyout in exchange. [/QUOTE]

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