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Message: [QUOTE="Knicks411, post: 1846995, member: 767"] Yeah I mean he's probably the second best PG on the planet, so I kind of feel like an idiot for saying they need him, like who wouldn't need Chris Paul? But Irving and Lowry are the same kind of player, neither guy is a great creator for others, so you end up with a decent amount of iso ball, which still works a lot because of the talent, but is less than ideal. I think that's more of an issue with Cousins than Jordan or Drummond, both of those guys can move real well for their size, I think. Maybe Jordan should have gotten some more minutes when Jokic (who btw is a really good young player) was lighting them up a few games ago. France for instance basically played Gobert/Diaw/Joffrey at the 4/5 spots, I don't think those guys are much quicker, if at all, than Jordan. Cousins seemed to get beat a lot though [/QUOTE]