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Message: [QUOTE="anomander, post: 1435792, member: 2766"] I specifically said Shafer has elevated recruiting? I just don't think he's elevated it to the point that most people make it out to be. My original point was if Marrone and the staff he had was working with the resources we have today, I think the results would be similar. I mean we just had a top 50 recruiting class. So there has been improvements, just nothing exceptional. I'm not denying that he didn't like it, and the poor results speak for themselves. I'm just pointing out that he didn't have anything to work with. (No ACC affiliation, D3 facilities until 2012, 10 wins in 4 seasons, etc). It shouldn't be a surprised recruiting was poor. [/QUOTE]