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Message: [QUOTE="RF2044, post: 1891464, member: 40"] Bogus straw man. Nobody is "scared" of them--they are in a terrible position, and we are not. It makes zero sense to elevate them, though. I think you're just pining for easy road trips. They aren't our football rival, and never will be. Dreaming about a northeastern football conference that will never materialize won't change that. And you are completely wrong about there being "plenty of athletes out there" -- especially when it comes to the northeast. History doesn't support that contention. And elimunelson, I'm not trying to make this "argument" personal. I think you're a great poster--I just believe that your position in this couldn't be further than what is best for SU. [/QUOTE]