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Message: [QUOTE="Marsh01, post: 209546, member: 473"] I hear you but this does not come as a shock, at least to me it doesnt. What happened when Captain Kangaroo was hired I said would take the program 6-8 years to recover from to where we were having successful winning seasons on an annual basis. 6-8 years. Its been 3 going on 4. What that moron (and I include the good dr in on this as well because he was the one who made the hire) did to our program was a complete joke. I hear you as far as the collapse, coaching additions, scheduling, etc but it should have never gotten to this point. Unless you brought in a Nick Saban, Urban Meyer, etc noone was going to turn this program around in 2-3 years. The Pinstripe Bowl season was great but a complete fluky over achievement. Give the players credit for playing their asses off but that was not supposed to happen so soon. [/QUOTE]