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Message: [QUOTE="Zelda Zonk, post: 4512913, member: 966"] [SPOILER="Spoiler"] You’ve gone 100% along the slider in characterizing each of those people. Which doesn’t represent the film at all. Yes, those are the broad strokes we were supposed to infer, but the Duke wasn‘t that offensive. He wasn’t even at Dice Clay levels, and it as all tempered by the joke of rhino horn(?) and by having his gf defend him. A clown, not an a**hole. Birdie was laughably dumb. And we were still supposed to let her slide past her gaffes because she wasn’t an a**hole. Lionel was nothing. In the grand scheme of “phony politicians,” Claire was hardly a bad guy. None of this matters, though. These little character synopses aren’t why I/we didn’t like the characters. And we didn’t like the characters way before their truths were revealed, whether it was at the half-point or later or whatever. Tonmake this all simpler: imagine we are watching the film in the same room. It begins, and chugg and I don’t like the movie because we think the characters are lame. We maintain this for the first “half” of the movie. Chugg says, “That’s it—i’m out.“ You reply: “You’re not supposed to like them. Movies have villains. Deal with it.“ Ten minutes later, those characters are revealed to be ”villains.“ — They were all just lame characters. Nothing to do with the reveals of their criminality or complicity. More than that, the directing/editing exacerbated the awkwardness. Those feelings were elicited early, as I said originally. And as I said, I started to change my opinion of the film because I enjoyed Janelle’s turn, as the sister. She essentially took over my attention, and the other lame characters didn’t matter as much. Janelle entertained me. Until the ridiculousness…. [/SPOILER] [/QUOTE]

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