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Message: [QUOTE="tipphill, post: 417032"] negative maybe, delusional no. have cared about su for years, cannot stand the thinking that has no basis in outcomes. my negativity comes from the fact that su fans do not realize what has transpired and the failure to keep up with the times. that said, we need to to stop living in the past and attack the future , which i believe that hcdm is doing---i resent the reliance of the past to the opportunity for the PRESENT AND THE FUTURE---the past has contributed to the arrogance of ignoring what is transpiring,rather than a proactive response to same.i bleed orange, to be redundant, and feel that those that do not see the forest through the trees to be detrimental to program growth, and denial of what is the reality. [/QUOTE]