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[QUOTE="omniorange, post: 222765, member: 636"]
As usual, there you go moving the goalposts.  My contention in the beginning was that NC State was the ACC's third best program of all-time.  That is without question to anyone who has any knowledge of the topic.
 
You replied that you would choose Maryland over NC State over the past 40 years.  I said that was debateable (meaning for that time frame I could understand possibly choosing the Terps over the Wolfpack), but then went back to why I believe that NC State is clearly the ACC's all-time #3 program. 
 
Now you want to move the goalposts again to the last 30 years?  :crazy:
 
Yes, over the past 30, over the past 20 years, over the past 10 years, Maryland has been the better program.
 
But when you talk with other ACC fans in a couple of years and they are telling you NC State is the 4th best program in the league (after UNC, Duke, and SU) please try to understand that for most, history means the entirety of the program, not snippets in time.
 
Cheers,
Neil
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