IMO...this is an indictment of the coaching staff...

[Jake]

Hackett said post game that they really didn't have a short yardage package until it was installed this past week.

Did they not expect third and short or goal line situations this season?

I love the spread package we run, but anyone in football knows it has a huge weakness in short yardage situations. Why was this not addressed in August?

I guess paintball was more important.

Holy crap, that is just scary.

 

[Bortukal]

I suppose that explains why it took four games for them to realize that maybe AAM would be a pretty good choice to carry the ball in those short yardage situations.

 

[RMH44]

Hackett said post game that they really didn't have a short yardage package until it was installed this past week.

Did they not expect third and short or goal line situations this season?

I love the spread package we run, but anyone in football knows it has a huge weakness in short yardage situations. Why was this not addressed in August?

I guess paintball was more important.

Holy crap, that is just scary.

Maybe they thought that they could line-up in a traditional eye set with the QB under center and ram it down opponent's throats.

 

[Noexcuse]

Hackett said post game that they really didn't have a short yardage package until it was installed this past week.

Did they not expect third and short or goal line situations this season?

I love the spread package we run, but anyone in football knows it has a huge weakness in short yardage situations. Why was this not addressed in August?

I guess paintball was more important.

Holy crap, that is just scary.

Can't be possible. Had to be misspeak or a ridiculous excuse for not using it the previous 2 games.

 

[bevosu]

I guess there's a downside to being too honest (truthful)?

 

[kcsu]

Hack is learning on the job. If we had a seasoned OC i believe we would be a much better team. The difference between Shafer and Hack is light years. I think that not hiring a proven OC has been the single biggest mistake of DM.

 

[upperdeck]

the radio said the opposite last night.. they had the package just thought they could get by without it with all the focus on working in the spread.. but in addition you need a solid line to run the power game and it was clear we were breaking down with Lou at the tackle.

 

[kingottoiii]

We had a short yardage (see SB). The question is why was this personnel not used vs SB?

 

[Cuseregular]

seriously. Last night at the post game tailgate I said lets just enjoy the win and later we'll analyze. It's time. It's looking like we'll need to worry going forward not just about the other team but also how our guys need to overcome our own staffs inadequacies. What you point out here. Not using your best athlete and player at all in Broyld (I assume to "punish" the kid for the Mn fumble), not having the smarts go know when to go for it on 4th downs (USC). Poor clock management last night not pulling aside your 5th year Sr. Qb and saying hey maybe let the clock run down before snapping the ball instead of snapping it with 20 sec. on the clock.

Geez basic stuff all of this.

 

[Millhouse]

spread works fine in short yardage if you have a qb with touch and you're willing to just sneak up the middle on keepers

spreading everyone out and running a sweep at them? blech

patriots have been great in short yardage just spreading teams out and sneaking

 

[suthrills]

I said the exact same thing last night in the chatroom.
Someone has to explain why it has taken 4 games for them to figure out how to gain a yard.
They had spring ball, fall practice, 4 games and NOW they finally figure out how to gain a single yard.
The only thing I can think is that Moore had "poor practice habits" like Sales and they were somehow punishing him, otherwise, just like Jake said it's an indictment
of the coaching staff.

 

[upperdeck]

clock management with 4-5 min to go and snapping early is not worth the effort. had 1 gotten 1 instead of 3 FD's no one would have cared. you cant wait to snap at one all the time. once we got down to under 2 then milking the clock was fine.

 

[ssbriefcase]

I said the exact same thing last night in the chatroom.
Someone has to explain why it has taken 4 games for them to figure out how to gain a yard.
They had spring ball, fall practice, 4 games and NOW they finally figure out how to gain a single yard.
The only thing I can think is that Moore had "poor practice habits" like Sales and they were somehow punishing him, otherwise, just like Jake said it's an indictment
of the coaching staff.

I can tell you right now, Hackett thought he could get by without using their short yardage package that was installed in August. That's precisely why he "apologized" for not using it earlier. This shows that he's learning on the job. Had nothing to do with any personnel.

 

[kingottoiii]

seriously. Last night at the post game tailgate I said lets just enjoy the win and later we'll analyze. It's time. It's looking like we'll need to worry going forward not just about the other team but also how our guys need to overcome our own staffs inadequacies. What you point out here. Not using your best athlete and player at all in Broyld (I assume to "punish" the kid for the Mn fumble), not having the smarts go know when to go for it on 4th downs (USC). Poor clock management last night not pulling aside your 5th year Sr. Qb and saying hey maybe let the clock run down before snapping the ball instead of snapping it with 20 sec. on the clock.

Geez basic stuff all of this.

Who would have thought after the 1st three games that our O would have produced 10 total points vs Minny and Pitt (not including the last TD vs Minny in garbage time)? Our pass O has been shut down two straight weeks by mediocre teams. That needs to be fixed if we are going to make a Bowl.

I rather win ugly (Pitt) than lose pretty (NW), but winning ugly cannot be a strategy.

As to Broyld I am not sure what is going on. What I do know is that those end arounds were tailor made for him and using those with the guys we did made no sense. If you aren't going to use Broyld than you have to use PTG, Rene, or Clark there. Those were high risk low reward plays that were often called when we were moving the ball well, putting us in a hole. At most we get 5-6 yards with Sales or Lemon. At worst it is a TFL. Sorry but teams will respect those two running it about as much as they do Nassib on the zone read.

Also I thought it was highly questionable using Smith split out wide on 3rd and long a few times. Head scratcher. Personally I HATE fades. NFL QBs do not have a high success rate with them. So when you have a QB with zero touch running one IMO is insane. It was an awful throw by Nassib but it should never have been called in the first place.

 

[anglerman]

seriously. Last night at the post game tailgate I said lets just enjoy the win and later we'll analyze. It's time. It's looking like we'll need to worry going forward not just about the other team but also how our guys need to overcome our own staffs inadequacies. What you point out here. Not using your best athlete and player at all in Broyld (I assume to "punish" the kid for the Mn fumble), not having the smarts go know when to go for it on 4th downs (USC). Poor clock management last night not pulling aside your 5th year Sr. Qb and saying hey maybe let the clock run down before snapping the ball instead of snapping it with 20 sec. on the clock.

Geez basic stuff all of this.

I doubt very much that he was punished because of a fumble. There's obviously more to the story.

 

[Fjoinkay]

My guess on Broyld is that maybe he had a bad 2 weeks of practice.

 

[SWC75]

Brent Axe said that his interpretation is that it had to do with Broyld's practice habits.

 

[PhatOrange]

I don't think I'd take the quote literally.

And thought that AAM is suddenly the difference at the goal line is ridiculous. Jsmith is about as powerful as a running back can be, I'd wager he'd have the same success in the same spot, and not a toss sweep.

 

[hoopsupstate]

What is it with all the Broyd talk? He's shown nothing in four games. People act like he's actually done something. He's not a tailback and the coaching staff has NO plans for him at quarterback.

 

[Cuseregular]

I doubt very much that he was punished because of a fumble. There's obviously more to the story.

Yep you're probably right and that's what scares me. My fear, based on nothing other than my own anxiety, is that he's going to be so mismanged here, so misused that he gets pissed, transfers and becomes a star elsewhere.

I gotta get control of my anxiety, could mail me a few meds doc

 

[kingottoiii]

I don't think I'd take the quote literally.

And thought that AAM is suddenly the difference at the goal line is ridiculous. Jsmith is about as powerful as a running back can be, I'd wager he'd have the same success in the same spot, and not a toss sweep.

Smith runs hard but I don't think he has power. He doesn't fall forward and is not a load the way AAM is. Smith is a lot like Brandon Jacobs.

 

[Scooch]

This offense is broken, yet again.

Last night reminded me of 2010. Although the style was entirely different, we had an O that was good for 1, maybe 2, scoring drives, them we hold on for dear life with D.

For the life of me I don't get it. Why is it so hard for us?

 

[orangenauburn]

This offense is broken, yet again.

Last night reminded me of 2010. Although the style was entirely different, we had an O that was good for 1, maybe 2, scoring drives, them we hold on for dear life with D.

For the life of me I don't get it. Why is it so hard for us?

We go into a shell ... no Flemming, no Kobena, no Broyld, no Rene, no Stevens, no Wales

They have their comfort zone and never push it

 

[billsin01]

This offense is broken, yet again.

Last night reminded me of 2010. Although the style was entirely different, we had an O that was good for 1, maybe 2, scoring drives, them we hold on for dear life with D.

For the life of me I don't get it. Why is it so hard for us?

I think the line is a huge issue, IMO. I felt like the interior guys had major problems with #97 (can't think of his name right now) and others. The tackles were OK in pass pro, but not great. This is a line that is simply not where it needs to be to consistently drive the ball down the field. Combine that with the fact that there aren't really big-time playmakers (Gulley is a nice one, Lemon is decent) and you have an offense that needs drives but has a leaky OL, which leads to inconsistency.

Also, Nassib is, like I've been saying for three years, perfectly acceptable but not "really good." He's a solid QB. But his struggles and occasional missteps don't help either. JSmith is the same type of player IMO, solid but not overwhelmingly dangerous.

Add it all up and you get an offense that can look pretty good for stretches, but also has periods of really poor play.

 

[retro44]

seriously. Last night at the post game tailgate I said lets just enjoy the win and later we'll analyze. It's time. It's looking like we'll need to worry going forward not just about the other team but also how our guys need to overcome our own staffs inadequacies. What you point out here. Not using your best athlete and player at all in Broyld (I assume to "punish" the kid for the Mn fumble), not having the smarts go know when to go for it on 4th downs (USC). Poor clock management last night not pulling aside your 5th year Sr. Qb and saying hey maybe let the clock run down before snapping the ball instead of snapping it with 20 sec. on the clock.

Geez basic stuff all of this.

i have not seen the game yet,but last night someone posted that nassib snapped the ball at 10 seconds on one play and at 5-6 seconds on most.then this morning it was 15 seconds by another poster and now it is 20 seconds.

i am wondering how many more posts it will take to reach 41 seconds on the play clock