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Message: [QUOTE="007, post: 1162123, member: 393"] I never implied whether I thought you were characterizing the offense as good or not. Besides, That is not illustrative of what we are debating. The offense clearly is not good, regardless of how many 20+ yard plays you count. My issue is with your definitive stance that your data prove that play making is NOT an issue. Your data does not "prove" that. Actually, I don't really have an issue with what you think that data means. It is subjective, and your theory is a good as most. I have an issue with you using derogatory terms with anyone who might think that there are other possibilities besides what Millhouse thinks the "truth" is. [/QUOTE]