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Message: [QUOTE="OrangePA, post: 1236950, member: 204"] You don't get it. USC and SU are competitors - they are major conference members who are looking to win the NC. This year and for a few years, neither SU nor USC has had a real chance to win the NC. If you think USC has been at that level in the past few years, you're kidding yourself or not paying attention. And SU should not - as you apparently have proposed - consider itself an unworthy competitor for USC or Penn State or Alabama or consider itself a second class football program. I don't know how old you are or how much you know about Syracuse University Football, but it's clear that you view it apparently as a second rate program - one that needs clown uniforms to recruit. I just don't see it that way. I see that the greatest running back of all time - Jim Brown - played at Syracuse University. I see that perhaps the greatest center of all time - Jim Ringo - played at Syracuse University. I see that the greatest tight end of all time - John Mackey - played at Syracuse University. I see that greatest fullback of all time - Larry Csonka - played at Syracuse University. I see that greatest kicker of all time - Gary Anderson - played at Syracuse University. I see that one of the pivotal pro football figures of all time - Al Davis - was at Syracuse University. I see some of the greatest coaches of all time - Tom Coughlin, Ben Schwartzwalder, Bud Wilkinson, Nick Saban - who were at Syracuse University. And you can add Floyd Little, Ernie Davis, Donovan McNabb, Jim Nance, Qadry Ismail, Rob Moore, Keith Bulluck, Marvin Harrison, Moose Johnston, Dwight Freeney, Walt Sweeney, Art Thoms, Rob Burnett, and even Chandler Jones and Arthur Jones on to the roster of the some of the great players who played at Syracuse University. So, we should never take a back seat to anybody when it comes to football legacy and we should never discount or demean our program to the point of thinking that we need stupid uniforms to attract players. We have a great brand - a great traditional uniform - and we don't need the BS. If you feel inferior, that's your issue. [/QUOTE]

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