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Message: [QUOTE="qdawgg, post: 1522750, member: 52"] Absolutely. And that's why I've said over and over I don't know what the answer is. But there are a lot of teams that face similar situations and find ways to win. I'm not flaming but we don't even find ways to win just a few of those games each year. As @hole as this might sound. If you take out the wins Shafer has from the OOC teams, who have we beaten compared to how many losses do we have against those same type of schools. Other coaches and teams find ways to overcome those things. This coaching staff just hasn't. Maybe they will though, maybe with a little more talent and experience we turn a corner. He becomes a better coach with better talent. I have no idea. I want this to be true though. [/QUOTE]