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Message: [QUOTE="Cuseregular, post: 1523382, member: 185"] much in there to agree with. BUT: do you really believe that many which I take to mean most SU fans are ok with mediocrity, participation trophies, close games to USF and moral victories? I think that's bunk and is evidenced by the paltry attendance of those whom won't accept that. While the rest of us masochistically slog on and continue to hang in there, and no one I know is ok with that. And I literally know not one person who is ok with what you post. Maybe ok with some reality along the lines of a consistent top 25 team say 5 0f 7 years with a bowl game with a shot at the top 10 once a decade as that's recognizing reality. But no one I know, have met, have talked to who are SU football fans are even remotely ok with what you characterize that many are ok with. [/QUOTE]