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Message: [QUOTE="OrangWest, post: 3719944, member: 6947"] That is true. But how should we define “success”. Play time might be one yard stick. But this board is debating how much play time #2 Hiltze will get this year. At Rutgers for example,(and dozens of other programs) he would be a starter or even “the guy”. I think the programs have more Schollarship money invested in the top 25 so they have an interest in seeing them succeed/produce. Half of the freshman class at Cuse will make it. They are 19 playing with 23 year old men. They will physically mature and will be starters or see lots of minutes. The question is which half. That list is like looking into a crystal ball, but after #20 it gets cloudy. [/QUOTE]