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Message: [QUOTE="DynstyUgrl, post: 850908, member: 4137"] Cusian, are you really that clueless??? Miami of Ohio is the school that brags about being the stepping stone. Minnesota isn't and never has been a stepping stone, not to other collegiate jobs and not to the NFL, either. Where did you get that idea? Because I said that Miami of Ohio is a stepping stone? We KEEP our good fb coaches, our hockey coaches and our Bb coaches/managers. Although we did lose one hockey coach to the NHL, but only after his job with the 1980 US Olympic team garnered him an incredible amount of fame. As for bb? We've had all kinds, even some NBA HOF Coaches, one big cheater, a HOFer's son, some cbb hall of famers, etc.. Minnesota produced one of the best NBA coaches ever, two of the best NFL coaches ever, one of the best CFL coaches ever, possibly the best American born NHL coach ever, the best US Olympic hockey coaches, and some of the very best College football coaches EVER. They couldn't all coach at Minnesota. Bierman DID, and won FIVE Natl Titles, and it took a World War to stop his dynasty from continuing, and it surely would have. No college football program in the country lost more because of Pearl Harbor than the Univ of Minnesota. And Biggie Munn and Bud Wilkinson were already coaching elsewhere when Bierman retired. The timing wasn't right. And we hired first a future hall of famer, then a guy who brought us a Natl Title. And Minnesota hired lots of established coaches or future hall of famers back in the day, so those Gopher alums went elsewhere to get their starts in coaching, and were successful. It's not realistic to think that a school is only going to hire former alums, and in fact, some schools avoid doing so unless the situation is too good to pass up. A lot of it is based on timing. But your desperately trying to turn this into a criticism is kind of lame. LOL, trying to make us out to be 2nd tier is laughable. We haven't lost a decent coach to another college team since Lou Holtz, who had a ND clause in his contract, and good riddance to him anyway, I would have rather sucked, like we have, than to have had him and won like ND did. Mason basically came to Minnesota in an effort to either make or break his career. He could have made it into the HOF had he succeeded at UMn. He didn't. We didn't lose him to tOSU or anywhere else. UMn's a destination job. Not the #1 destination necessarily, I'm not deluded, but its a make or break place for people like Glen Mason and Jerry Kill. It broke Mason, so far it looks like it could make Jerry Kill, but its still too early to know, we thought the same of Mason after his first 3 years. We lost ONE single hockey coach to the NHL, and only after he pulled off the greatest sports upset of the 20th century. We've had just TWO baseball coaches in the last 70-80 years?! First one is in the cBb HOF after winning 3 Natl Titles at Minnesota, the 2nd is still coaching and has the most wins in Big Ten Baseball history! We had John Wooden basically hired as a bb coach, but a snowstorm prevented us from getting the call through to him, so he went with his 2nd choice, UCLA. It's in his book if you don't believe me. We passed on Bobby Knight and got a coach that brought us a Big Ten title in his 2nd or 3rd season instead. We hired a former SIX TIME PRO BB/NBA Title winning coach. We got Tubby Smith. A future HOF coach to come to Minnesota. We took a chance on a future HOF Coaches son. So far it seems to be working out. We got the US Gold Medal winning Olympic coach to take the VB coaching job. We got his predecessor from a very successful Illinois program. We were and are a destination program in that sport as well. We've only had 2 or 3 wrestling coaches in the schools entire history, basically. We are a final destination. Seems to me we're pretty well established to be FIRST RATE. [/QUOTE]

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