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[QUOTE="DynstyUgrl, post: 850976, member: 4137"] Bottom line is, you don't seem to have a clue what you are talking about! Syracuse only has more wins than Minnesota in football because its played a softer schedule over its entire history, and when Minnesota was dominating, the Big Ten was not a big fan of its schools playing either bowl games, or a lot of out of conference games. Hence Minnesota winning Natl Titles with records of 8-0, 8-0, 7-1, 8-0, 8-0 & 7-1. We played eventual conf champs and/or ranked teams in our few ooc games during those years, so our scedules were overloaded with nothing but conf and/or quality opponents. We did that while other teams were playing 10 or more games a season, beating up on creampuffs. Proof that Syracuse's MORE wins means diddly squat is the evidence... UMn has produced TWICE AS MANY cfb Hall of Fame "players" 18 to 9. UMn has won TEN Natl Titles to Syracuse's 3, or 6 recognized ones to SU's 1. UMn has produced TWICE AS MANY cfb Walter Camp 1st team AAs as SU, 40 to 21. UMn is ranked #16 All-Time in Billingsley's All-Time Program Rankings, compared to SU being ranked #50. As for basketball? Sure, Syracuse has done much better than Minnesota over the years, but why? That's an interesting question, one that I know almost for a stone cold fact, no homer Syracuse bb fan wants to know the answer to. And why would I even dare to ask the question? Because Minnesota has produced a lot more NBA players and successful ones, too. How is that possible? But the completely and MOST totally HILARIOUS thing I've ever heard, is the part of your comment where you say that, concerning the sports that count, obviously you mean fb and bb, that "Minnesota looks up to Syracuse, as it always has"! AS IT ALWAYS HAS?????? Minnesota IS still ahead of Syracuse in cfb. Minnesota has NEVER looked up to Syracuse in fb. Even in the last 50 years, as down as we've been, Michigan and Ohio State and maybe Penn St are the teams we look up to. NOT some middle of the pack program like Syracuse. We've met you on the field 4 times in the last 50 years and beaten you 3 of those 4 times. Sorry if that doesn't impress us. Syracuse is only somewhat better than Minnesota over that 50 year period. Hell, we look up to Wisconsin more than Syracuse! Syracuse is a decent program, don't get me wrong, and I hope the best for your school and program in the future. I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but you are being disrespectful and so I do have a right to try to defend my school, don't I? And as far as bb is concerned. UMn started out college basketball history as the best program in the nation. Syracuse looked up at Minnesota back in ancient times. Minnesota won Natl Titles in 02 and 03 and again in 1919. So Syracuse didn't win their 2nd until 1926, so yeah, Syracuse looked up to Minnesota for a long time, probably all the way into the 80's after Boeheim and Danforth had some time to start to catch up. As of 1982, Minnesota was ranked 21st in the # of AP poll appearances with 118, top position was #3, and Syracuse was 37th with 82, top position was #2. But Minnesota had several Top Ten seasons where they didn't get an NCAA invite because the #1 or #2 team in the country was from the Big Ten. Syracuse didn't pass UMn up in the # of AP poll appearances until 1986. So not sure how Syracuse got their invites, but Minnesota had to work harder than any other school out there basically, just to get into the tourney. Even as late as 1990, when Minnesota beat Syracuse in the tourney, UMn had a chance to pass up Syracuse, now that the Big Ten could get more than 1 team into the tourney, but Clem the Gem turned out to be Clem the Cheat and UMn went backwards and Syracuse moved forward. Good for you all and your team and your school. It sucked for Minnesota to deal with the aftermath of the Haskins scandal. But to ignorantly claim that Minnesota's always looked up to Syracuse in basketball is just an indication that you are probably a homer who doesn't really care either way what the truth is, you just want to talk some smack. [/QUOTE]
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