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Message: [QUOTE="RF2044, post: 4682131, member: 40"] I'll take it a step further, because I think we see evidence of this every year at TBT with Boeheim's Army. Every summer, I get excited to see new faces from recent SU teams past -- and I think, player x or player y were awesome at SU, so they'll kick butt in TBT. And then I see them play, and I'm surprised by how limited they seem, relative to what we saw at SU. I think we also see that played out when guys who look good at SU [like Guerrier] go to another team and struggle, or when a guy who looks so promising [like Woody Newton] can't get off the bench at the new school. JB recruited system fits, and then coached them into positions where they could maximize their capabilities to succeed. Can't say that about every program / coach. And outside of his HOF capabilities, those same players often can't come close to producing at that same level outside of the system. [/QUOTE]