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Message: [QUOTE="kyleslamb, post: 19092, member: 895"] Well any survey that claims that Rutgers has double the fanbase of Notre Dame in NYC, or that Pitt has more fans than Florida State, or that Troy has more fans than Stanford is not representing any reality I'm aware of.[/quote] Some of those things seem highly unlikely, but the truth is, we simply don't know. Since I'm sure you haven't polled every single football fan in America... polls are just that. They are never going to be perfect. It's all based on perception and limits in sampling. There are errors involved with all surveys and all reports. Even a scientific survey is not going to yield perfect results (hence why you don't see 100% confidence nor a standard error of zero). That's the point I'm making. I don't know how the original poll was conducted. I'm not saying it is or isn't complete junk. But the point is I also feel like measuring something national... 2,000 responses simply isn't enough, considering there are nearly 300 million people in the country. Even among college football fans, 2,000 responses is barely a fraction of the total number. This isn't a post supporting this specific poll as much as it is a testimony to the idea that even "scientific" polls have their limitations because of sample as a proportion to the entire population. So my point is not that this survey is or isn't accurate, but it's that overall, because of such a large sample, some of the otherwise scientific problems in the collection are outweighed by the sheer number of responses. Of course, I would like to know what methods they took to eliminate double-counting (i.e. ballot stuffing). Obviously my opinions on this survey would change greatly if they did not go through proper methods to eliminate that. And yes, I'm well aware of all the other methodology problems. I did take a statistics class too. Truthfully, I'm skeptical of all polls. This one is no different. The only difference is that at least it has a much larger portion of the population surveyed than most. So that's the only reason I'm giving it a little more benefit of doubt. [/QUOTE]

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