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Message: [QUOTE="CuseOnly, post: 1115129, member: 2804"] Got it, so we can chalk up the lack of progress under Jake to the "budget process" with Buzz and we can chalk up the progress under DDG to the new "budget process" under Cantor. So what you are saying in general is we could have had cardboard cutouts as AD for both eras and still got the same results and be where we are now. All I have to go on is what I see. And if part of the job description was to move us to the next level, why wasn't Jake able to get it done? I firmly believe that being a salesman to both sides (donors and administration) is part of the job description. Convincing the alums to donate and the administration and board to open the check book. I saw Jake doing neither, DDG has done both. [/QUOTE]