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Message: [QUOTE="texascpa, post: 835269, member: 468"] Sorry, can't agree with this. Entertainment is a product that the producers (SU Athletics) try to sell to the consumer (SU fans). Just like any product, if it doesn't deliver to expectations (wins, entertainment value) and provide good customer support (administration), then that business division (Syracuse University Athletic Department) will fail. That said, management changes (Shaw and Jake are long gone) and customers need to account for that in their decision. Just because one company President manages his customer base poorly (Shaw) doesn't mean the current President (Cantor/Syverud) does. I've gone back to businesses after change of management before, and some have worked out well. Not sure why these 10 friends wouldn't give SU a chance under different management. [/QUOTE]