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Message: [QUOTE="Eric15, post: 1430657, member: 676"] Using "bowl wins" as a barometer of success is pointless. A team that loses the Rose Bowl had a much better season than a team that won the Belk Bowl. So you're telling me that if you were talking football with a fan of another school at a bar, that SU's Aloha Bowl victory against Arizona would come up in conversation before say, our 1998 win at Michigan? The regular season in college football is everything. That's why CFB is such a great sport - the regular season isn't an exhausting means to an end like so many other sports. [/QUOTE]