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Message: [QUOTE="MikeSU02, post: 5321590, member: 60"] I actually think the people that parroted that line about Carlos after seeing him in person may be even worse. Honestly. I saw him on TV and he wasn't good. Then I saw him in person and was scared how bad it was going to get. Then I saw how much data pointed to him being one of the worst starters (at the time) ever in our program's history. The JC thing will never get a pass from me. Red whether he lied or thought it, either way, it's on his record. The Eddie thing is a close second. Holy cow. [/QUOTE]