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Message: [QUOTE="Zelda Zonk, post: 1617178, member: 966"] I don't get your 'logic.' • An athlete comes to SU, at some stage of development. • He plays at SU, at various stages of development. • He leaves, and hopefully plays in the NBA, having 1) begun at SU at a certain level; and/or 2) been developed at SU. So, if we're not producing NBA standouts, as you seem to acknowledge, then we're not bringing in players with the talent level high enough to succeed in the NBA, and/or we're not developing them well-enough while they're at SU.* Are you: • saying we don't recruit better than other schools that have produced more/better NBA players? • denying that SU has not developed players well? * Another incalculable option is that they somehow go 'off the rails' after they've left us, and their failures have nothing to do with anything experienced before the NBA. Who, other than Fab Melo, might qualify for that classification? [/QUOTE]