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Message: [QUOTE="dasher, post: 1190615, member: 6061"] Bill Parcells was 3-12 in his first year with the Giants. I know people that wanted him fired. Bill B. was fired by the Browns. Sometimes you have to be patient. Sometimes it works out, sometimes of course it doesn't. Any coach deserves 4 years to get his players in the program. Would you keep this coach... year 1 4-6-1 year 2 2-9 year 3 6-5 year 4 6-5 year 5 7-5 year 6 5-6 Nothing special. That was coach Mac. In what year would you have fired him? My guess is year 6. Possibly year 2 In case you weren't around, there was a sack mac movement. [/QUOTE]