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Message: [QUOTE="orangefog, post: 388122, member: 293"] I have been thinking about it, and it seems that to have sustained excellence, it is ideal for guys to be contributors for two years. Whether they are super freshman and they have great freshman and sophomore years or they are program type players and they contribute their junior and senior years. If you can get two productive years out of each player and you have a 13 man roster, you are going to have sustained success. [/QUOTE]