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Message: [QUOTE="upperdeck, post: 5062239, member: 474"] If we win 8 thats great. If we are good 10 is for the taking But where does that get us in the big picture 12 team playoff In the crazy train world where the bigs only loses to bigs the playoff talk will be nuts ACC Let FSU run the table so 12-0 Clemson loses to GA and FSU 10-2 NC st loses to Tenn and Clem 10-2 That makes UNC 10-2 SU loses to NC st 11-1 Miami loses to SU and FSU 10-2 B10 Mich goes 12-0 OSu goes 11-1 PSU goes 11-1 Ore goes 10-2 Wash 9-3 USC goes 10-2 Iowa goes 10-2 SEC Ga goes 12-0 Ala goes 11-1 Tex goes 10-2 OK goes 10-2 Mizzu 10-2 Ole miss 10-2 B12 Ok st 12-0 Kan 12-0 Utah 11-1 I didn't even really go down all the schedules either to see if more teams can get crazy 10+ win seasons. ACC ends up with FSU and 3 way tie for 2nd. 21 10 win teams. [/QUOTE]