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Message: [QUOTE="orangecuse, post: 3191383, member: 668"] In regards to the OP, there are facts posted, but as predictable at times here, it's easier to simply dismiss and/or diss a poster who doesn't have the deemed worthy "stature" on this internet sports fan board. 4-8, 4-8, 10-3 and 4-7 to date are facts...with one game left in year 4. Our recruiting classes have been ranked in the lower third of the ACC for the most part to date. Additional facts: Dino is the head coach, he is 100% responsible for the personnel and the staff he voluntarily chooses to hire. He's also 100% responsible for the recruits he brings to SU, and the degree in which they develop while here. Also, as captain of the ship, he's 100% responsible for the discipline his team portrays as a whole and sets the tone accordingly. Those being the facts, maybe we can focus moving forward on having a spirited discussion on this as the OP also offered to partake in. [/QUOTE]