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Message: [QUOTE="kcsu, post: 3191668, member: 528"] I disagree. It might be a difficult place to win an ACC title but it certainly isnt a difficult place to win 6-8 games a year. This years failure is on the coaches. Vet should have been moved to center after the first bye week. Possibly sooner. Ward completely screwed up one of the most talented D rosters we have had in years. Dino needs to surround himself with guys who can coach. SU is never going to win on talent alone. We will however win more than not if we have exceptional coaches. It is obvious to me that our talent isnt the issue. Its our coaches. Other than possibly 3 coaches we are mediocre at best. OL LB WR DB QB coaching is worse than the talent they have to coach. [/QUOTE]